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guy dscuba
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sanur
Indonesia
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Posted - 06 May 2012 :  3:51:52 PM
Just had a few days off, went on a trip to Flores (my first time). We were trying out our new concept - land based trip, at Labuan Bajo, using a speedboat to get to all of the major sites. Being interested in seeing if the rumours were true about damage to (amongst others0 cannibal rock, we took 80 minutes to get there (800hp boat). the result - yes, a large area has been wiped clean of coral - total shame and terrible behaviour on the part of the fishermen, but for those wanting to go, don't worry it's still a world-class site!
we also did Yellow wall, Castle rock, cauldron etc etc - North and south islands, all from Labuan Bajo. 4 days there, 7 dives (2 on arrival day, 3 the next day, 2 the day after.). A great way to do it - I'm not a liveaboard fan! Cheaper too. Spacious rooms and the chance to get to a different restaurant every night - check out Made In Italy - it had some of the best italian food I have EVER tasted!

Alien
1200+ Posts

Melbourne
Australia
2309 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2012 :  10:39:34 AM
Bomb damage?

guy dscuba
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sanur
Indonesia
7 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2012 :  11:58:01 AM
Yes, since the NGO who were responsible for ensuring the safety of the no-take-zones was chucked out, the rangers have been mostly inactive - so there has been more normal fishing, bombing and cyanide fishing in the area. Recently some quite heavy bombing was done..... theres lots of info around (some a bit exaggerated) and its certainly true that the area will suffer irrepairable damage if the patrols aren't re-established fairly fast.
More info on the Jakarta Post (online).

from another website - "bomb fishing has become more common along the island ever since conservation NGOs, the Nature Conservancy and Putri Naga Komodo, were forced out of managing the park due to a dispute with the government over how money from fees should be applied. The NGOs wanted park fees (which they raised for foreigners) to go back into the protected area, while the government fought for the funds being moved into a general fund. The NGOs were exited in 2010, leaving the government to manage the over 200,000 hectare park.

Read more: http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0425-hance_komodo_reefbombing.html?utm_source=feedburner#ixzz1u969iWDR

Edited by - guy dscuba on 07 May 2012 12:10:12 PM

Alien
1200+ Posts

Melbourne
Australia
2309 Posts

Posted - 08 May 2012 :  11:46:08 AM
Same as dynamite fishing?

thanks

guy dscuba
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sanur
Indonesia
7 Posts

Posted - 08 May 2012 :  1:28:03 PM
yes, sorry for the confusion, here the locals call it Bombing so I've fallen into the habit. Actually its not dynamite 9for too expensive!) - it fertiliser+petrol or similar, homemade stuff. You'd think that being primitive, sometimes it would go up in their boats but no such luck!

Aquamaniac
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Perth
Australia
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Posted - 08 May 2012 :  3:46:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guy dscuba

it fertiliser+petrol or similar, homemade stuff. You'd think that being primitive, sometimes it would go up in their boats but no such luck!


ANFO...Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil- essentially fertilizer and Diesel. Used in probably 80% of the worlds mine sites as an explosive. Far from primitive!
It is cap-insensitive, so it generally requires a primer. As a result, its pretty stable.

guy dscuba
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sanur
Indonesia
7 Posts

Posted - 08 May 2012 :  5:11:53 PM
thanks for that info! Certainly seems to work well enough....

Alien
1200+ Posts

Melbourne
Australia
2309 Posts

Posted - 09 May 2012 :  11:43:45 AM
I dived Komodo 2 years ago and noticed no such damage

debw
30+ Posts

Mornington Peninsula
Australia
44 Posts

Posted - 23 May 2012 :  6:13:13 PM
We were over at Komodo for a few days last week, it was a short flight from Bali, we flew Trans Nusa, they were pretty relaxed about luggage, our suitcases were around 15kg each, they weighed us with carryon but didn't weigh carryon separately. The plane was comfortable and punctual, and you even get a little snack..

We dived with Marc Crane (rEvo instructor Marc) who is in charge of a new landbased operation based at the Jayakarta Hotel Komodo, Flores - a very nice hotel, lovely pool, easy access to great selection of restaurants in town (we didn't eat at the hotel.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/orca.diveclubflores.3

so if you are looking for an alternate to a liveaboard, or like us were on a family holiday in Bali and snuck away for a couple of days get in touch with Marc and he can help you get organised.

The warm water and stunning marine life was well worth it. Komodo dragons and some dry caving also featured on the visit.


Yes went to Made in Italy it was good, but Mediterano over the road was sensational (went there 2 nights - tiramisu is awesome)

guy dscuba
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sanur
Indonesia
7 Posts

Posted - 25 May 2012 :  10:53:00 AM
I agree about the Tiramisu - but the pizza in Mediterano really wasn't great.....
Just a little extra info about the land-based diving - problem with Orca and all the others ( actually there are plenty of boats doing land-based diving) is the it takes so long to get to the further sites - 3 hours!
Thats why it was so great on my last trip, to use a speedboat...... if you are a group, or can be combined with other guests to make one of 5 people or more, there's a 800hp cruiser that will get you to every well-know dive-site in Komodo within 80 minutes... https://www.facebook.com/dscubaclub will give you a bit of info on custom-made trips from Bali, from 4 days diving upwards - you get the boat to yourselves; and it's still cheaper than the good liveaboards! Contact and ask for Guy (me1). The quality is assured, and you are accompanied by one of the Team from D scuba club to make sure all goes well. The flight can also be organised for you - useful, as the price goes up each day, the nearer you are to the flight, and booking can be difficult!
The hotel we used was Puri Sari, big rooms, but only snacks at the restaurant so we used the free transport provided to go into Labuan Bajo each night. An upgrade is available, to Bintang Flores, if you need the extra comfort....





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Originally posted by debw

We were over at Komodo for a few days last week, it was a short flight from Bali, we flew Trans Nusa, they were pretty relaxed about luggage, our suitcases were around 15kg each, they weighed us with carryon but didn't weigh carryon separately. The plane was comfortable and punctual, and you even get a little snack..

We dived with Marc Crane (rEvo instructor Marc) who is in charge of a new landbased operation based at the Jayakarta Hotel Komodo, Flores - a very nice hotel, lovely pool, easy access to great selection of restaurants in town (we didn't eat at the hotel.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/orca.diveclubflores.3

so if you are looking for an alternate to a liveaboard, or like us were on a family holiday in Bali and snuck away for a couple of days get in touch with Marc and he can help you get organised.

The warm water and stunning marine life was well worth it. Komodo dragons and some dry caving also featured on the visit.


Yes went to Made in Italy it was good, but Mediterano over the road was sensational (went there 2 nights - tiramisu is awesome)


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