Recreational dive boats

7 years 3 months ago #23299 by kittles
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So I got talking with my dive buddy and he's pondering the idea of getting a boat for diving and fishing.

With so many options out there I thought I'd see what everyone thinks.

So post em up! What do you own or would you like to own as a recreational dive/fishing boat? (no million dollar rigs please [8D])

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7 years 3 months ago #264323 by Trickie Dickie
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Originally posted by kittles

So I got talking with my dive buddy and he's pondering the idea of getting a boat for diving and fishing.

With so many options out there I thought I'd see what everyone thinks.

So post em up! What do you own or would you like to own as a recreational dive/fishing boat? (no million dollar rigs please [8D])




Mine cost me about $6000 all up; I spent $2100 on the boat, from Island Inflatables islandinflatables.com.au/inflatable-boat...odelsWOOD-Floor.html , $3000 on a 30hp (should have got a 40hp) Yamaha 2 stroke pull start and about $700 on a second hand trailer.

The boat is kept under cover and is looking fine, I wouldn't keep it out in the open, a garage, carport, or failing that, a good tarp is essential; it handles well and takes 2 divers + 4 tanks really well, 3 divers with 6 tanks ok, or 4 with 1 tank each; furthest I've taken it is about 12km each way and it uses about $12-15 in fuel on a trip like that.

Yep cheap boat and after 5 or 6 years, I'll sell it, probably for under $1000, find another $1500 or so and buy an identical replacement - which is ok AFAIAC, there's not many new boats you'd get away with under $2000 depreciation in 5 years.

It works for me and whilst it can be a wet boat is great fun, very stable, responsive and handles really well in the typical sea conditions here. My only mistake was in not getting a slightly larger motor.

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7 years 3 months ago #264325 by Gudge
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Coming soon to SE Queensland waters:

http://www.gudgeon.id.au/boat.html

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7 years 3 months ago #264327 by Chriso
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Ribs all the way !!
Here is mine.

5.8m with an Evinrude 115 eTec, cruising speed 30 knots fully loaded. super stable and comfy and very light so easy to tow and launch.



Cheers
Chriso

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7 years 3 months ago #264328 by kittles
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Not sure it'd be a nice ride out past the Brisbane bar in that, Chriso!!

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7 years 3 months ago #264330 by Chriso
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Not sure it'd be a nice ride out past the Brisbane bar in that, Chriso!!




Ha... Coming home from Rotto when the Freo doctor blows up in the arvos, just rug up in the Drysuit push the throttle open and hang on as though your life depended on it, is actually an amazingly dry ride. :D

My next boat will most likely be a protector.
www.protectorboats.com/boats-rec/

Cheers
Chriso

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7 years 3 months ago #264332 by AB
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Kittles,
it's hard to recommend something without knowing your budget. No matter what, it will cost you $$$ in the end, and if cheap diving is your sole motivation charters can work out better in the long run.

Having said that, I have had my own dive boat for many years, and for us the independence and flexibility is worth it. If you are running from Brisbane out to Morton or North Straddie, you should get something which can do the trip in comfort. We run our boat more than 20 k along and out from the coast with up to 6 divers. We are also older divers, so a walk through transom was a must, as was a decent canopy for protection on a full day out. My 6.1 Trailcraft has done its job comfortably, and reliably for 9 years now, and despite hundreds of divers abusing it each year, it still looks good. I reckon it has another decade or more of service left in it which has made it good value. Trailcraft are no longer available, but there are plenty of quality plate boats around.

Alan

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7 years 3 months ago #264338 by kittles
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Kittles,
it's hard to recommend something without knowing your budget. No matter what, it will cost you $$$ in the end, and if cheap diving is your sole motivation charters can work out better in the long run.

Having said that, I have had my own dive boat for many years, and for us the independence and flexibility is worth it. If you are running from Brisbane out to Morton or North Straddie, you should get something which can do the trip in comfort. We run our boat more than 20 k along and out from the coast with up to 6 divers. We are also older divers, so a walk through transom was a must, as was a decent canopy for protection on a full day out. My 6.1 Trailcraft has done its job comfortably, and reliably for 9 years now, and despite hundreds of divers abusing it each year, it still looks good. I reckon it has another decade or more of service left in it which has made it good value. Trailcraft are no longer available, but there are plenty of quality plate boats around.

Alan







See something like that looks very nice. I just worry about boats without a deep hull when you move out past the cover of straddie and the chop starts up!

This is all very theoretical however lets throw out around 20k as a budget. That tailcraft is like a 50k boat! Nice though...

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7 years 3 months ago #264360 by AB
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Kittles,
I just had a quick look at Boatpoint for Qld, and there seems to be plenty of options under 20 K, but most just over 5 metres. This is fine for 4 divers, which is the minimum safe crew to allow for buddy pairs in the water and someone on the boat at all times. Everybody's priorities are different, some like a roomy boat that is cheap to run and nearly indestructible, which are the qualities of tinnies, but they ride hard into a chop. Some like to get there fast and don't mind sacrificing deck space and economy for speed, and this is the hallmark of glass boats. There are also a few inflatables around, but my experience with older ribs is that they are expensive to maintain.

Suggest you and your mate try a few different types out (ie join a club) and then sort out your priorities before buying a rig. Hints, get a boat that matches your needs as closely as possible as modifying to suit can really blow the budget, and the engine is more important than the hull.

Alan

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7 years 3 months ago #264363 by rachel
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Not sure it'd be a nice ride out past the Brisbane bar in that, Chriso!!



we had 5.5m gemini rib, almost identical to chriso's. it was perfect for brisbane conditions.
rachel

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7 years 3 months ago #264385 by rynan
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Wow Kittles, I almost posted this exact question on here yesterday too. I got distracted on eBay and stumbled across the boat section and thought 'hmm.. what if?' haha

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7 years 3 months ago #264402 by rachel
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ok just re-read my reply. the boat wasn't perfect (no shade, no toilet- in that order of my priority) but it handled sea conditions across bay and outside both straddie and moreton just fine. sometimes it was a bit rough on the bum but that was mostly eliminated by the addition of a seat across the back in front of the transom. we had the driver forward and dive rack/gear to back. we could hold up to 4RBs + stages, or 5 twins + stages or 10-12 single tanks. we had 135hp evinrude 2 stroke engine which was a predecessor to e-tec. had low emissions so not really a problem very efficient with fuel but heaps of grunt. top speed WOT, 40knots (no dive gear), 30 knots was pretty typical with gear and good conditions. IIRC used ~60L fuel on average (a bit more if you really had to work the throttle going across from redcliffe to bulwer). matt built this boat from the hull up specifically for the type of diving that we wanted to be able to do. it performed exactly as we expected and wanted.

the biggest mistake we've seen with dive boats, is that they are underpowered. ours was considered at the maximum power (or even overpowered depending on who you talked to) for length of the rib. prop specs are also important in how well the boat performs.

we sold the boat for about 27k about a year ago cos we weren't using it since we'd had a baby. but we're now getting our life back to normal (diving wise) and have gone and bought a riviera 35 for something a bit more family friendly but still capable of spending a weekend with a 2-4 extra people out diving. its not perfect either (yet) for diving - we've budgeted for some dive specific upgrades- but boats tend to be about compromises when you want to use them for multipurpose.

work out exactly what performance/configurations you expect in order to have a positive experience whether fishing or diving or whatever, and check whether your budget is realistic. then go out and look, look, look around.

rachel

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7 years 3 months ago #264438 by burna
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My knowledge of boats could be written on a postage stamp using a whiteboard marker, but...
What would be the min sized boat would you need be able to visit the Canberra?

I know there are a lot of variables to this question, but lets say going thru the heads and something you could get out there on a regular basis without having to wait for absolutely perfect conds.

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7 years 3 months ago #264442 by Trickie Dickie
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Originally posted by rachel

ok just re-read my reply. the boat wasn't perfect (no shade, no toilet- in that order of my priority)




All boats have got a toilet.

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7 years 3 months ago #264458 by sharks2stow
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Originally posted by burna

My knowledge of boats could be written on a postage stamp using a whiteboard marker, but...
What would be the min sized boat would you need be able to visit the Canberra?

I know there are a lot of variables to this question, but lets say going thru the heads and something you could get out there on a regular basis without having to wait for absolutely perfect conds.

Disclaimer: This post may or may not contain information that all members would consider to be relevant to diving or even indeed interesting. Such members are not obliged read this post in full or in part. Those members are free to ignore this post and scroll onto the next or add me to their ignore list.




Around the 5m mark as a minimum.Prefer closer to 6m.

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7 years 3 months ago #264471 by rachel
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ok just re-read my reply. the boat wasn't perfect (no shade, no toilet- in that order of my priority)




All boats have got a toilet.




yes i know but hanging my bare **** over the side of the open boat to do a dump is just not pleasant. there are ways and ways, and sometimes i do like a bit of civility.

:-)
rachel

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7 years 3 months ago #264473 by Mick T
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We have a 7.6m StabiCraft - Deep Attraction

picasaweb.google.com.au/micktait.com/Dee...tion?feat=directlink

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7 years 3 months ago #264474 by kittles
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Originally posted by rachel

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Originally posted by rachel


ok just re-read my reply. the boat wasn't perfect (no shade, no toilet- in that order of my priority)




All boats have got a toilet.




yes i know but hanging my bare **** over the side of the open boat to do a dump is just not pleasant. there are ways and ways, and sometimes i do like a bit of civility.

:-)
rachel




Now there's a mood killer! :D

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7 years 3 months ago #264475 by Mattyo
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We have a 7.6m StabiCraft - Deep Attraction

picasaweb.google.com.au/micktait.com/Dee...tion?feat=directlink




awesome looking boat Mick[:clap:]

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7 years 3 months ago #264476 by ph
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Originally posted by rachel

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Originally posted by Trickie Dickie

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Originally posted by rachel


ok just re-read my reply. the boat wasn't perfect (no shade, no toilet- in that order of my priority)




All boats have got a toilet.




yes i know but hanging my bare **** over the side of the open boat to do a dump is just not pleasant. there are ways and ways, and sometimes i do like a bit of civility.

:-)
rachel




and use your buddies hood to wipe yeah????

:D

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7 years 3 months ago #264480 by slug
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All boats have got a toilet.

yes i know but hanging my bare **** over the side of the open boat to do a dump is just not pleasant. there are ways and ways, and sometimes i do like a bit of civility.

:-)
rachel


Have you not heard of the bucket and chuck it method?

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7 years 3 months ago #264483 by WetOne
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We have a 6m Haines with 150 etec and biggest problem - finding dive buddies. I am over solo dives but we find it very difficult to find experienced divers to come for a dive ... And weather is quite often ****ty of late... Boat is awesome

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7 years 3 months ago #264485 by Minkyd
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We dive nearly every weekend from our 4.6m Crusader rib to places like Cook Island, Seaway and outside, Flat Rock, Curtin, exhmas Brisbane, Cochrane Artificial Reef. Although we have done some trips to Flinders and eastern side of Moreton we have to pic the weather conditions. Fits 4 divers and gear and we use ropes with clips to clip off gear when returning to the boat so that we have room to change tanks etc. Cost well under $20k. The Crusader boats are from South Africa and are very high in the bow which is great for following seas. The 90 hp Mercury means she is a bit overpowered but great to have some grunt when you need it.

We manage to fit very large video & camera kit in as well. Very light and easy to tow, launch and retrieve and no too bad on fuel costs which can be an issue.

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7 years 3 months ago #264498 by TwoDogs1969
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I have been reading these and seems everyone likes there boat. My latest boat is a 6.5 m plate alloy with a 150 Yamaha walk through transom.It fits 6 divers with twins or re breathers and 1 sling each over this I drop it to 4 divers. You dont need to spend huge money I brought this off Trader Boat for $10,000 spent another $2500 to get it shipped from Perth to Sydney. I know some love their blow up rubber love dolls but seriously look at the room they have the pontoons take up so much space and they are wet. Things I think make a good dive boat are you need to have a very good ladder that goes well into the water, Some way of securing your tanks. If you are going to do deep dives room and somewhere to store a good deco setup. The ability to stay dry it might be ok to be getting wet by spray in Brisbane but in Sydney in winter it is like having an Ice Cream headache.

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7 years 3 months ago #264501 by Minkyd
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I have been reading these and seems everyone likes there boat. My latest boat is a 6.5 m plate alloy with a 150 Yamaha walk through transom.It fits 6 divers with twins or re breathers and 1 sling each over this I drop it to 4 divers. You dont need to spend huge money I brought this off Trader Boat for $10,000 spent another $2500 to get it shipped from Perth to Sydney. I know some love their blow up rubber love dolls but seriously look at the room they have the pontoons take up so much space and they are wet. Things I think make a good dive boat are you need to have a very good ladder that goes well into the water, Some way of securing your tanks. If you are going to do deep dives room and somewhere to store a good deco setup. The ability to stay dry it might be ok to be getting wet by spray in Brisbane but in Sydney in winter it is like having an Ice Cream headache.



Yep rubber rocks[:X]

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7 years 3 months ago #264533 by IOC
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Best trailer boats in Oz!

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7 years 3 months ago #264567 by burna
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My knowledge of boats could be written on a postage stamp using a whiteboard marker, but...
What would be the min sized boat would you need be able to visit the Canberra?

I know there are a lot of variables to this question, but lets say going thru the heads and something you could get out there on a regular basis without having to wait for absolutely perfect conds.

Disclaimer: This post may or may not contain information that all members would consider to be relevant to diving or even indeed interesting. Such members are not obliged read this post in full or in part. Those members are free to ignore this post and scroll onto the next or add me to their ignore list.




Around the 5m mark as a minimum.Prefer closer to 6m.



Thanks Sharks. Something to work on.

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7 years 3 months ago #264570 by burna
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7 years 3 months ago #264572 by pgcarter
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Important to have all that armour plate, so your tanks don't knock the boat around so much.....
regards Phill

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7 years 3 months ago #264573 by kittles
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Originally posted by WetOne

We have a 6m Haines with 150 etec and biggest problem - finding dive buddies. I am over solo dives but we find it very difficult to find experienced divers to come for a dive ... And weather is quite often ****ty of late... Boat is awesome




The Haines Hunter offshore series (think the 600R?) makes my pants tingle :D

Don't think I'll ever have the dosh to own one but we can always dream :D

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