What is the correct treatment for a Stingray attack?

3 years 9 months ago #299093 by Wrecked
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After descending to the bottom I noticed an upset stingray next to me that seemed to be trying move quickly before it collided with a rock, then I saw another diver moving over the creature. It was agitated still and when the diver drifted over the stingray it attacked the diver with its tail and the barb pierced the drysuit on the leg. Should I have been worried? i.e. was there potential for anything severe?

As far as I know keeping the person calm and restricting movement should all that be required before medical treatment is given at hospital. Can a sting from a stingray be deadly, if stung on leg or arm?

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3 years 9 months ago #299094 by MeRodent
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My understanding is to apply water as hot as acceptable to the area to denature the poisons.

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3 years 9 months ago #299097 by spiro
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The most affective treatment is to phone a current affair, sunrise or one of the other news people. They should certainly be able to assist. You could also try Brian at Seatec, he is great at patching up drysuits.

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3 years 9 months ago #299098 by Dave
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As stated above hot water is the best first aid measure, if available. If you can't immerse the limb in hot water then soak towels in hot water and wrap it around the area. Be careful of course not to overdo the heat and cause burns. Don't remove the barb if it is still lodged in the wound as it is serrated and will need to be medically removed.

The venom of stingrays is very painful and while it does have the potential to cause some nasty medical consequences severe effects would be rare. The barb itself however can cause quite a bit of damage particularly when it is a large stingray. The deaths that I have heard of generally involve the barb penetrating the chest or abdomen where it has the potential to pierce the heart, major blood vessels, or other vital organs.

Fortunately most stings are on the lower legs where the likelihood of serious consequences are not as great, but I guess puncture of the femoral artery on the thigh region could be quite nasty.

There is also the potential for infection if the initial medical treatment hasn't been adequate. The wound needs to be well cleaned and antibiotics may be required depending on the view of the doctor.

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3 years 9 months ago #299101 by The Padi Police
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spiro wrote: The most affective treatment is to phone a current affair, sunrise or one of the other news people. They should certainly be able to assist. You could also try Brian at Seatec, he is great at patching up drysuits.


Yep, Naomi Robson with a lizard on her shoulder will make it all better.

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3 years 9 months ago #299102 by AB
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Wrecked,
Was this the Hannah/Blairgowrie incident? And what sort of ray was it?

Alan

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3 years 9 months ago #299105 by Wrecked
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spiro wrote: The most affective treatment is to phone a current affair, sunrise or one of the other news people. They should certainly be able to assist.


they don't pay anymore

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3 years 9 months ago #299106 by Wrecked
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Dave wrote: The deaths that I have heard of generally involve the barb penetrating the chest or abdomen where it has the potential to pierce the heart, major blood vessels, or other vital organs.

Fortunately most stings are on the lower legs where the likelihood of serious consequences are not as great, but I guess puncture of the femoral artery on the thigh region could be quite nasty.


So if the venom gets into the main arterial system it potentially could be lethal.

Alan the stingray looked like this upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f...asyatis_kuhlii_1.jpg

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3 years 9 months ago #299123 by Michael McFadyen
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There are numerous examples of people standing on relatively small stingrays and getting stabbed and dieing. I recall a number of them happening in Fiji. In most cases the people have been a long way from shore and first aid and they bleed to death.

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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #299125 by Dave
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Wrecked wrote: So if the venom gets into the main arterial system it potentially could be lethal.


More to the point if your heart or aorta cops a 6 inch spike through it you are not likely to do well, the same as if you were stabbed with a knife. The fact that it is also venomous wouldn't help the cause.

Steve Irwin died from the fact the barb penetrated his heart.
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3 years 9 months ago #299126 by Dave
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As far as I can gather stingray deaths are uncommon. Here is a quote from Neville Coleman about stingray deaths in Australia"

Within Australia there are five recorded deaths by venomous stingray barbs. Of course, many hundreds, even thousands of fishermen, waders, divers and reef walkers have been spined and suffered non-life threatening wounds from small stingrays, myself included.

www.nevillecoleman.com.au/underwater-mar...in-wildlife-warrior/

An article in Wikipedia states:

Contact with the stinger causes local trauma (from the cut itself), pain, swelling, and muscle cramps from the venom, and possible later infection from bacteria [3] or fungi.[5] Immediate injuries to humans include, but are not limited to: poisoning, punctures, severed arteries and veins, and occasionally death.[6][7] [8] Fatal stings are very rare, but can happen,[3] famously including Steve Irwin. In this case, the stinger penetrated the thoracic wall, causing massive trauma

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_injury#cite_note-Slaughter-3

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3 years 9 months ago #299129 by AB
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Wrecked,
So it was an agitated Eagle Ray. Good thing it wasn't one of the regular Smooth Rays or it would have been much worse!

Alan

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