Looking for Commercial Diving work.

7 years 3 months ago #23399 by Max Payne
Max Payne created the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
I am currently swopping over to ADAS Level 2 from my South African DOL Level 2 Commercial Diving course.
Wondering if anyone knew of a good place to start?

Currently I am a sheep shearer, so hard work is not something I am afraid of. I have a very high IQ, and am not one to sit around talking when there is work to be done.

I like to travel, so relocating will not be a problem.
I have a car and all my own gear. Including underwater video camera. I do not drink or take drugs.
I am from the country, so I do not know anyone in the Commercial Diving world.

Cheers.

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7 years 3 months ago #265706 by Tassie Diver
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Give the Maritime Union of Australia a call and ask to speak to one of their diving organisers. They are the employees representative in the commercial diving industry.

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7 years 3 months ago #265707 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Cheers.

I have emailed heaps of places with no real luck.
Some reply once, ask for a CV, get it, and never reply.
Maybe they think my CV is bs?
Not sure, but not getting a good vibe from this industry.

At least with shearing the tally book never lies.

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7 years 3 months ago #265717 by justinm
justinm replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Would it be worth getting in touch with one of the training organisations? There's a few around. 'Descend' in Albury Woodonga is the closest to Melbourne and Sydney that I know of. There's a school in Fremantle and I think there's one in Tassie as well.

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7 years 3 months ago #265983 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by justinm

Would it be worth getting in touch with one of the training organisations?




Yeah tried that with no real luck.

Seems you have to know someone, or get really really lucky.
Might give it a miss and keep shearing.
Guess $2k a week isnt so bad.

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7 years 3 months ago #265994 by seadragon57
seadragon57 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
True , it's not what you know it's who you know...
Keep trying . Anything that's worth attaining DOES'NT COME EASY. :D [8D]

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7 years 3 months ago #265995 by Com_Diver89
Com_Diver89 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
lol someone said to me once

"the best way to find commercial diving work is to find a new career"

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7 years 3 months ago #266045 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by seadragon57

True , it's not what you know it's who you know...
Keep trying . Anything that's worth attaining DOES'NT COME EASY. :D [8D]




Kinda shows how backward Australian business is when we still offer jobs to "mates" first and qualified unknowns second. I mean fair enough if your mate is the best candidate, but that doesnt seem to matter.

I am not sure its worth attaining. If the bosses are so arrogant that they dont reply to emails then are they really worth working for? I am going to keep shearing. I enjoy working hard and the competitive side of it (helps when you are winning 90% of the time too).

cheers

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7 years 3 months ago #266060 by diver scott
diver scott replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Max, have you got your ADAS card yet? Without it you have no real hope of work. Saying "it is on its way" will tend not to cut the mustard. Before we go any further, I will declair that i USED to be involved with descend, but no longer have any involvment.

Descend (and the schools in Freemantle and Tassie) are just that, training schools, not generally employers (other than their limited number of staff). If you have your ADAS card, you might find ringing/emailing the numerous companys that employ divers a much more successful thing. Sometimes going to meet them (if you have a chance) might be a better thing.

The other avenue might be to contact ADAS directly, as I think they might have a list of some of the jobs around, and contacts for you in the dive industry.

Just some thoughts, hope they help

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7 years 3 months ago #266061 by diver scott
diver scott replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Oh and just to ballance the scale, when my family still was involved with Descend, the employment rate out of courses was well over 80%. This may well have changed since that time, but it certainly wasnt only those who knew the rightpeope that got jobs. If you had the right qualifications, and were available, you could get work. As i said it may have changed, but I know a lot of peole still getting work regularly (but it is easier with a level 3 adas card as well, even if you dont need a level 3 for that job, just makes you look a bit "flasher")

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7 years 3 months ago #266104 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Just got offered 11 months shearing work next year around Broken Hill.
Should make $70-80K.
8 hour days, 5 days a week.
Travelling with mates and a heap of freedom.

Sex the commercial diving industry and its "we're so good, we can treat everyone like crap" attitude.

Thanks, but no thanks.
cheers

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7 years 3 months ago #266107 by seadragon57
seadragon57 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Gee you gave up quick, i'll take a diving job above shearing anyday. I've done both and prefer being underwater than a stinking hot shed...but thats just me ,, enjoy buddy :) [8D]

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7 years 3 months ago #266108 by Com_Diver89
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No the Attitude is...

"We will stick with our regular crew because we know how they work and they have always stuck by us"

Commercial diving requires lots of commitment. If its too hard, let someone who is working hard have the job.

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7 years 3 months ago #266135 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by Com_Diver89

If its too hard, let someone who is working hard have the job.




I dont think you can compare commercial diving to shearing.
Or any job to shearing for that matter.
Especially when you go to NZ and have a go at the Kiwis.

I enjoy it more cos I enjoy working hard.
And enjoy watching others fall away in the heat.
But thats just me.
I am a bit crazy I guess.
I love the pain.
:)
cheers

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7 years 3 months ago #266136 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by seadragon57

Gee you gave up quick, i'll take a diving job above shearing anyday. I've done both and prefer being underwater than a stinking hot shed...but thats just me ,, enjoy buddy :) [8D]




If I do this for 2-3 years I will be set.
If I swop to comm diving it could take me 10 years to achieve a similar result.

I love the stinking hot sheds.
Mainly cos other people dont. 45, even 50*C, love it!

Its fun to watch a learner (or even experienced) shearer/rousie tell us how good he/she is. And then watch them leave in a week (or less) with their tail between their legs.
:)

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7 years 3 months ago #266148 by seadragon57
seadragon57 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Hence the name --- Maximum Pain ---- Likes to shear sheep instead of going deep [;)]

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7 years 3 months ago #266149 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by seadragon57

Hence the name --- Maximum Pain ---- Likes to shear sheep instead of going deep [;)]




Today I was shearing ok (50 a run in ave ewes) and the bloke in front of me was only doing 40. Without thinking I nearly yelled at him to have a go so I had someone to race.

:)

Max pain, never. You can always feel more.

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7 years 3 months ago #266156 by Com_Diver89
Com_Diver89 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by Max Payne

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Originally posted by Com_Diver89


If its too hard, let someone who is working hard have the job.




I dont think you can compare commercial diving to shearing.
Or any job to shearing for that matter.
Especially when you go to NZ and have a go at the Kiwis.

I enjoy it more cos I enjoy working hard.
And enjoy watching others fall away in the heat.
But thats just me.
I am a bit crazy I guess.
I love the pain.
:)
cheers





Well... hard worker? Gave up pretty quick...

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7 years 3 months ago #266170 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by Com_Diver89


Well... hard worker? Gave up pretty quick...




Giving up and realizing you will not enjoy a job career is not really the same thing. I have long had my doubts.

The other job (11 months work) came up on the weekend when I had no real feedback from anyone I emailed.

So why hit your head against a brick wall when you can cruise on down the river?

I love shearing, I doubt I would love comm diving (least not while the bosses have that "we dont need you, you need us" attitude).

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7 years 3 months ago #266177 by Stan Bugg
Stan Bugg replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Max,
With respect;
As a long retired commercial diver, I would point out that unless there is work for you with those you have contacted, they are hardly going to offer you work.
As mentioned by others, you need to:
a) cross over to ADAS.
b) be patient.
c) expect some knockbacks, and some no-replies ( yeah. I know.... rude of them, but.....)
d) Actually front up at the dive business so they can see you, and gauge your interest and skills.
I cant see anyone offering you work over someone they have seen in action, despite your own assessment of yourself:
VERY high IQ (!!)
Determination....until it suddenly became too hard.
Competitive personality.... hardly an asset on a commercial job. I would prefer the team player myself.

You forgot to mention persistance.... distinct lack thereof. This is a vital asset if you are going to mnake it as a commercial diver.... but you seem to have decided that it wasnt the career path you sought after all.

I hope you enjoy the shearing.

Regards,
Stan

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7 years 3 months ago #266180 by Max Payne
Max Payne replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
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Originally posted by Stan Bugg


VERY high IQ (!!)
Determination....until it suddenly became too hard.
persistance.... distinct lack thereof.




I am guessing an IQ of over 160 is high.
I was never that determined as I love the competition of shearing. Or lack of, in my case. I had to go to NZ to find some.
I persist at things I am keen on. I enjoy diving but not easy work.

I was not expecting to be offered work as such, but to get some kind words or to be pointed in some direction would have been nice.
I have been sending out emails and ringing for awhile now.
So its not a one day change of heart.

You are quick to judge.
Pity people were not that quick to help.

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7 years 3 months ago #266184 by Com_Diver89
Com_Diver89 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
its a cut throat industry... expect to get your throat cut!

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7 years 3 months ago #266189 by Tassie Diver
Tassie Diver replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Mate, if you've an IQ of 160+, comm-diving is not for you...

Bubble-heads... "I'm not real bright, but I can lift heavy things," springs to mind[:stir:][:stir:]

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7 years 3 months ago #266192 by seadragon57
seadragon57 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Tassie Diver--- you must have 2 bubble heads :D [8D]....
PS. People with an IQ of 160 + would'nt brag about it, eye shood no

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7 years 3 months ago #266203 by diver scott
diver scott replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Goodness, I think a few people (myself included) offered you help to the best of our abilities, but some of your comments might make us wonder why.

Just a hint, when someone the calibre of Stan Bugg offers you some advice, it might be worth listening to. In case you are not aware, he is one of the most knowledgeable people in the Australian dive scene, and has been for quite some time! Maybe the advice of someone whose father was the first ADAS instructor in Australia (myself), and is a past ADAS diver and instructor might have been worth listening to as well. As both of us intimated, you may have a very hard time getting much in the way of a reply untill you are QUALIFIED to work in Australia. Thats not arrogant, rude or "old boys club" of them, its just common scence.

Now if you really just do not want to work as a commercial diver, great, and I hope you enjoy whatever you choose to do. It was also my choice, one I have never in any way regretted, but I never once blamed to industry for my choice. I hope you have fun with the shearing

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7 years 3 months ago #266227 by Com_Diver89
Com_Diver89 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Im not complaining :) More work for me!

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7 years 3 months ago #266229 by My-way
My-way replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
No I'm not going to train up.

Just a general question. Is there much work around generally and if so where is most of it located?

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7 years 3 months ago #266232 by seadragon57
seadragon57 replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
Aquaculture is a good start for budding Com divers, they learn the basics and get used to diving with no BCD, full face masks with coms and surface air supply.
I've seen and heard of loads of guys starting in Aquaculture and moving on to more lucrative and better jobs.
The Salmon Farms in Tassie were advertising jobs a couple of weeks ago and the Port Lincoln Tuna Farms are worth a try even over here in Elliston we're short of divers (Email me for more info) some people might think these jobs are below what they Trained for but like i said before it's a good way to learn the ropes and get an insight into the industry.

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7 years 2 months ago #266970 by SpaceMonkey
SpaceMonkey replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
^What Seadragon57 said. I've been ADAS certified for about 6 months now and pretty much been working the whole time, aquaculture or hull cleaning are probably your best entry points to the industry, then just keep your head down, work hard, don't mouth off to all and sundry and the opportunities will start to come. It's an industry that doesn't really tolerate big-mouthed newcomers, but if you're a hard worker, willing to learn and take advice from the more senior guys you'll get there. And yeah you need to have the relevant certifications sorted before anyone will even look at you- too many guys drop out of or get booted off the courses for anyone to think about committing to employ someone who will have their ticket "soon".

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6 years 8 months ago #277847 by maxciriloy
maxciriloy replied the topic: Looking for Commercial Diving work.
My recommendation to you would be to Google and check out the Longstreath diving directory. For now thats the best resource available online for commercial divers like yourself to locate and contact commercial diving companies in both your own and foreign countries.

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